Fagwmenoi ekkentroforoi
04-25-2007, 10:26 AM
Post: #11
Fagwmenoi ekkentroforoi
έχει καπελότα με πλακίδια ρύθμισης (αλά Μιραφιόρι παλιάWink Άκη αλλά την "μαγκιά" πρέπει να την έκανε ο καγκουρομάστορας στην ρύθμιση... μάλλον τις έκανε Αλαιν-ντελόν ρύθμιση αντί για ακριβείας και με κρύο μοτέρ...

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04-25-2007, 10:58 AM
Post: #12
Fagwmenoi ekkentroforoi
κι ένας χρήσιμος πίνακας ... :wink:
4A-GE 16V Camshaft Comparisons:
Duration Lift Intake opening Exhaust opening Comments
232 7.1mm 8BTDC 47BBDC Stock 4AG(Z)EU used on 90~91 Hi-comp. AE92 and supercharged AW11. P/N Intake 13501-16030. Ex. 13502-16020, Good turbo cam. Keeps exhaust pressures high without blowing back though intake manifold.
240 7.56mm 9BTDC 51BBDC Stock 4AGEU used on AE86 and AW11. P/N Intake 13501-16010. Ex. 13502-16010. Some have found good power setting the maximum lobe lift for the exhaust at 100BTDC and intake at 100ATDC. For more bottom end power retard the exhaust 4 and advance the intake 3. For more top end, advance intake 4and exhaust 3 from stock settings.
244 .322” Web – p/n 45-082, Grind number 294; Duration @ .050” lift is 218. Increases overall power. Ground on new billet cams. Works with factory injection or carburetors.
(8.2mm)
248 7.45mm HKS - p/n 2202-RT030, Can be used on 4AGZE
250 .350” Web – p/n 45-092, Grind number 101; Duration @ .050” lift is 228. Increases mid and upper RPM power. Ground on new billet cams. May cause fair idle on fuel injected engines.
(8.9mm)
256 7.6mm TRD - no longer available. Good bottom-end power and plenty of mid-range for passing.
256 7.9mm Toda - p/n 02.TD.CS4AG0S1
256 8.35mm HKS - p/n 2202-RT031, Can be used on 4AGZE
256 8.5mm Toda - p/n 02.TD.CS4AGBF2, Recommended to use Toda’s valve train kit, i.e., under bucket shims
256 9.0mm Toda - p/n 02.TD.CS4AGCJ1, Recommended to use Toda’s valve train kit, i.e., under bucket shims
257 .398” Web – p/n 45-131 (Hard-weld), Grind number 286; Duration @ .050” lift is 226. Designed for off-road and stadium racing. Requires under bucket shims.
(10.1mm)
264 7.6mm 26BTDC 68BBDC TRD - no longer available. Increased performance, needs headers, more performance with higher compression. Mfg. recommends setting the cam at max lift for the intake at 106 ATDC and exhaust at 116BTDC.
264 7.9mm Toda - p/n 02.TD.CS4AGCJ2
264 8.35mm HKS - p/n 2202-RT032, Can be used on 4AGZE
264 8.7mm Toda - p/n 02.TD.CS4AGCJ3, Recommended to use Toda’s valve train kit, i.e., under bucket shims
264 8.9mm Toda - p/n 02.TD.CS4AGAI1, Recommended to use Toda’s valve train kit, i.e., under bucket shims
272 7.5mm TRD - p/n intake, 13501-AE871, ex. 13502-AE871. Increased performance, needs headers, more performance with higher compression, approaching limits of stock EFI, works best with side drafts. Ex. max lift set at 98 BTDC. In. max lift set at 100 ATDC. Will work with new (suggested) factor valve springs.
272 7.8mm Toda - p/n 02.TD.CS4AG0C2
272 7.9mm Toda - p/n 02.TD.CS4AG0A2
272 8.35mm HKS - p/n 2202-RT033, Using both intake and exhaust on a stock Supercharged 4AGEZ has less bottom end below 3,000, strong mid to high end power.
272 8.5mm Toda - p/n 02.TD.CS4AG0P1, Recommended to use Toda’s valve train kit, i.e., under bucket shims
272 8.7mm Toda - p/n 02.TD.CS4AG0B2, Recommended to use Toda’s valve train kit, i.e., under bucket shims
272 8.9mm Toda - p/n 02.TD.CS4AGAI2, Recommended to use Toda’s valve train kit, i.e., under bucket shims
272 9.9mm Toda - p/n 02.TD.CS4AG0P4, Must use Toda’s valve train kit, i.e., under bucket shims
272 10mm TRD - p/n ex. 13502-AE831. N2 and Rally cam has good bottom-end torque and strong mid-range, revs to 7,500 RPM. (requires race engine prep. and mod.s) Ex. max lift set at 100 BTDC
272 10.3mm Toda - p/n 02.TD.CS4AGCJ4, Must use Toda’s valve train kit, i.e., under bucket shims
276 .384” Web – p/n 45-021 (Hard-weld), Grind number 119; Duration @ .050” lift is 240. Good overall power for off-road racing. Requires under bucket shims.
(9.8mm)
280 10.3mm Toda - p/n 02.TD.CS4AG0J4, Must use Toda’s valve train kit, i.e., under bucket shims
284 .395” Web – p/n 45-071 (Hard-weld), Grind number 110; Duration @ .050” lift is 256. Strong mid and upper end power for off-road racing and pro-rally. Requires under bucket shims.
(10mm)
288 7.5mm 57BBDC TRD - p/n intake, 13501-AE861, ex. 13502-AE861. Very strong power increase from 4,000 to 7,000 +RPM, less bottom end (does not idle very well). Used as an exhaust cam with 304 intake in TRD rally car (max lift @ 98 BTDC). Will work with new (suggested) factor valve springs.
288 7.8mm Toda - p/n 02.TD.CS4AG0C3
288 8.3mm HKS - p/n 2202-RT034, Can be used on 4AGZE
288 8.5mm Toda - p/n 02.TD.CS4AG0P2
288 8.7mm Toda - p/n 02.TD.CS4AG0B3, Recommended to use Toda’s valve train kit, i.e., under bucket shims
288 10.0mm Toda - p/n 02.TD.CS4AG0I1, Must use Toda’s valve train kit, i.e., under bucket shims
288 10.0mm TRD - p/n ex. 13502-AE821. Rally cam has less bottom-end torque more HP on top, revs to 8,000 RPM. (requires race engine prep. and mod.s) Max lift set at 100 BTDC
288 10.35mm HKS - p/n 2202-RT035, Can be used on 4AGZE
296 11.0mm TRD - p/n ex. 13502-AE951. Used on the late model AE92 Hi-comp. Head with slightly different porting configuration. Intake max. lift set at 102 BTDC.
300 10mm 62BTDC 76BBDC TRD - p/n ex. 13502-AE811. Japanese N2 racing cam. has less bottom-end torque more HP on top, revs to 8,000 ~ 10,000 RPM. (requires race engine prep. and other mod.s). Max lift set at 102 BTDC, exhaust and 98 ATDC, intake.
304 7.5mm 52BTDC 65BBDC TRD - p/n intake 13501-AE851, ex. 13502-AE851. Japanese Group A racing cam, very strong power increase from 4,500 to 7000 RPMs. (requires race engine prep. and mod.s) Max lift set at 100 BTDC, exhaust and 100 ATDC, intake. Will work with new (suggested) factor valve springs.
304 7.8mm Toda - p/n 02.TD.CS4AG0C4
304 8.3mm HKS - p/n 2202-RT036, Can be used on 4AGZE
304 8.5mm Toda - p/n 02.TD.CS4AG0P3
304 8.7mm Toda - p/n 02.TD.CS4AG0B4, Recommended to use Toda’s valve train kit, i.e., under bucket shims
304 10mm 62BTDC 76BBDC TRD - p/n intake 13501-AE801, ex. 13502-AE801. Japanese N2 & Formula Atlantic racing cam. has less bottom-end torque more HP on top, revs to 8,000 ~ 10,000 RPM. (requires race engine prep. and other mod.s). Max lift set at 102 BTDC, exhaust and 98 ATDC, intake.
304 10.35mm HKS - p/n 2202-RT037, Can be used on 4AGZE
304 10.5mm Toda - p/n 02.TD.CS4AG0C1, Must use Toda’s valve train kit, i.e., under bucket shims
304 10.7mm TRD - p/n exhaust 13502-AE881
304 11.0mm TRD - p/n intake 13501-AE951, ex. 13502-AE901. Used on the late model AE92 Hi-comp. Head with slightly different porting configuration. Intake max. lift set at 102 ATDC.
310 10.5mm Toda - p/n 02.TD.CS4AG0T1, Must use Toda’s valve train kit, i.e., under bucket shims
312 11.0mm TRD - p/n intake 13501-AE901. Used on the late model AE92 Hi-comp. Head with slightly different porting configuration. Intake max. lift set at 102 ATDC.
320 10.0mm TRD - p/n intake 13501-AE811
320 10.8mm Toda - p/n 02.TD.CS4AG0A4, Must use Toda’s valve train kit, i.e., under bucket shims
320 11.0mm TRD - p/n intake 13501-AE881

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04-25-2007, 12:12 PM
Post: #13
Fagwmenoi ekkentroforoi
Ακη οταν ειχα παει να δω το αμαξι το ειχαμε βαλει μπροστα και δουλευε πενα αθορυβο ολα καλα. Δεν το ανοιξαμε και δεν ειχαμε και την πολυτελεια κατω απο το σπιτι του ιδιοκτητη να λυνουμε και να δενουμε. Τον θορυβο αρχισα να τον παρατηρω τις επομενες μερες. Μπορει να ηταν και πιο πριν αλλα να μην τον ειχα παρατηρησει, τι να πω.

Αυτο που ειχα παρατηρησει ειναι οτι ο δεικτης λαδιου ηταν στο μισο. Ο ιδιοκτητης μου ειχε πει οτι αλλαζε λαδια καθε 10.000 χλμ οποτε μπορει να την ειχε κλασει το λαδι. Δεν το πιεσα το αμαξι στο ταξιδι. Μου ειπε οτι εβαζε 15/40 και το ιδιο εβαλα και εγω στην πρωτη αλλαγη αλλα μετα το αλλαξα με 20/50 νομιζωντας οτι θα διορθωσει το προβλημα. Ειχα κανει 2000 χλμ με 15/40 και δεν ειχε κατεβει χιλιοστο η σταθμη. Τωρα με 20/50 εχω κανει 2500 χλμ και παλι δεν εχει κατεβει η σταθμη.

Υποτιθεται να θυμισω οτι το μοτερ ειχε γινει επισκευη. Τωρα τι εχει παιχτει δεν ξερω. Μπορει ο Γιωργος να εχει δικιο. Το θεμα ειναι τι κανουμε τωρα.

Γιωργο ωραιες πληροφοριες!!!

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04-25-2007, 12:58 PM
Post: #14
Fagwmenoi ekkentroforoi
πάντως ότι κι αν αποφασίσεις Διονύση θα πρέπει αφού βάλεις τους νέους εκκ/ρους ΑΜΕΣΩΣ να ρυθμίσεις βαλβίδες με παγωμένο μοτέρ ΣΩΣΤΑ!!!
Και για να γίνει αυτό πρέπει να πας σε συνεργείο που να έχει συλλογή πλακιδίων για να κάνει ΑΚΡΙΒΕΊΑΣ ρύθμιση και ο μάστορας να κατέχει και να ΘΕΛΕΙ να κάνει ακριβή ρύθμιση κι όχι ότι νά'ναι ...
Ελπίζω να βοηθάω :wink:

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04-25-2007, 01:17 PM
Post: #15
Fagwmenoi ekkentroforoi
Βοηθάς και πολύ μαλιστα!!!

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05-03-2007, 08:56 AM
Post: #16
Fagwmenoi ekkentroforoi
Ρε συ Διονυση τι έκανες τελικά;;;

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05-03-2007, 09:02 AM
Post: #17
Fagwmenoi ekkentroforoi
Έλα Άκη!!!

Μίλησα με Θανάση. Θα του βάλω τα λεφτά και θα μου το στείλει. Ελπίζω όλα να πάνε καλά!!

Ευχαριστώ πολύ Thumbs up!

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05-03-2007, 09:13 AM
Post: #18
Fagwmenoi ekkentroforoi
τι έγινε Νιόνιο ???? θα "αγριέψουμε" ?????????? Smile

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05-03-2007, 09:19 AM
Post: #19
Fagwmenoi ekkentroforoi
Οχι Τζωρτζ μαμά μένουμε για αρχή! :wink:

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05-03-2007, 09:28 AM
Post: #20
Fagwmenoi ekkentroforoi
α ρε και έιπα κι εγώ θα ακούσω και κανα άλλο χατσιρόκου να "κελαηδάει" ..... Confused

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