It started to get nasty:D

[Apolan]

Hello friends,

I was wondering how long could the new hachi owners restrain themselves from going down the slammed deepdish route

Today, i want to talk a little bit about "style" regarding the new car (GT86). Not that it matters significantly, as an architect/designer/aesthetics lover, i think the new styling is okay. Its pretty agressive/sporty looking, clearly with the younger crowd (and the young spirit in all of us) in mind. It provokes the desirable feelings of wanting to get behind the wheel and drive in a spirited manner. So its safe. And understandabliy so, but can it become a classic?

This is what i think the new car lacks - class. See the whole concept of the car is almost a perfect classic material, something many of us have dreamed about the car industry would produce for many years. (dreams of a rwd DC2 anyone? ) But the styling - seems too fashionable. Sure, let us see how it will hold out throughout the years.

One of the great feats of successfull design(styling) is its intrinsic quality that can be expressed in many different ways. Going for a cruise on a sunny automn sunday morning, driving up to the opera house with your lady in your evening garments, making a race car or even a rally car out of it etc.. Some cars looked awesome anywhere (yes past tense, there is increassingly less cars/objects like that).

For instance, i have a hard time picturing a GT86 rally car. Somehow the styling looks more street-racy or tarmacy or as the above picture portrays, we can see that hardcore "jdm" style feels right at home with the new lines

So i want to hear your opinions and predictions on the new design and imminent style developments. How will the new hachi hold up? I have no doubts that it will indeed become a "mini-classic" just for its performance, concept and afordability ballance. But can the design follow?

Best regards to all of you lovely people!

[Ivan141]

Here's guessing it will never sell in big enough numbers and be as approachable as the original ae86. It's just too overpriced for that in NL.

[NoHachi]

I want one.... badly

[ZaX]

What can I say more, then add more pics of mr Kei Miura's work





I will have one, sooner or later.

[oldeskewltoy]

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butt ugly...

[T_AE86]

oldeskewltoy Wrote:






butt ugly...

X2, i don't like this tuning thing. I like it with the TRD kit, the standard version too (except her wheels)

[Apolan]

I think the car has a "decent" price. Not sure if the old hachi was any cheaper comperatively, but to get a true rwd sports car like that for a bit over 30k eur is pretty good. (How much is it in holland anyway?) The 1 series bimmer is that much with a 1.6 engine. If you look at it that way

Sure Megane RS or Focus or even Clio might be faster machines for less - but hopefully the market will slowly start to realise there is more to cars than just figures. It is similar to what is happening with digital cameras and the megapixel race.

Hopefully toyota has calculated this well enough to sell enough. The 2nd hand market will much richer with this in the line up.

I do realise it is a safer bet to put out something which is in trend and fashionable, but i still hoped for an even purer concept, even simpler design, maybe a starter of a new era

[Niek]

In NL its starting from €39.990.
Im affraid it wont become a classic icon as the ae86 is, but I sure hope it will be.

[Ivan141]

Apolan Wrote:(How much is it in holland anyway?) The 1 series bimmer is that much with a 1.6 engine. If you look at it that way

39.990 euros.. that same Bimmer 1 costs about 27.400 over here.

[Bean]

In my opinion it won't become a classic neither will any other car produced these days... life cycle today are simply too short.

regarding prices in Switzerland it shy over 42k CHF (~34.5k€) unfortunately for less than 2k€ more you can get the brand new Subaru WRX Sti...

What really annoys me is Toyotas price management worldwide.
I was looking into prices lately as I will get another car next year once I left Sudan for good.
I won't get into details of my requirements etc but consider this: a GT86 is minimum 50% more expensive almost everywhere compared to the US and Dubai. Far worse in my opinion you can buy 2 (yes two) IS-F in the US or Dubai brand new for the same price you get 1 (only one) in Switzerland (rest of Europe is slightly cheaper but still way overpriced). Same goes for the Lexus LS series and others.

PS: hell if you don't need new you can get an IS-F in the US for less than 30k$ if you shop around.