ecu fuel trim
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11-18-2012, 01:27 AM
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It seems strange that the ECU does not have a target AFR table hidden
away somewhere ?? I was under the impression (from reading about the Freedom ECU on club4AG) that it was capable of self tuning a number of selectable maps according to driving style e.g. economy, normal and sports modes. To me this implies having a target AFR table based on TPS x RPM. I gathered that once these maps were auto-tuned in closed loop, they could be locked in, and later used in open loop. Maybe I read too much into that article ? Or maybe you have a different version ? My ECU (which is not super-sophisticated) can only store two maps. But it will auto-tune to redline in closed loop, using the target AFR table. There is an option to go to open loop above a specific TPS (maybe RPM) and use whatever values you have setup in the map. Seems to me you might need to dyno tune your WOT values using a "safe" AFR. Then manually taper the map back intuitively to your last line of auto-tuned cells. Fine tune by monitoring from your logs while running open loop, and then lock it up Cheers... jondee86 |
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11-18-2012, 05:04 PM
Post: #12
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Hey Jondee yeah you are right about some versions of the Freedom
having target AFR values, unfortunately though mine does not have this feature I guess the sport mode is the "throttle map" mode that uses TPS x RPM and the economy mode uses the MAP sensor. "Seems to me you might need to dyno tune your WOT values using a "safe" AFR. Then manually taper the map back intuitively to your last line of auto-tuned cells. Fine tune by monitoring from your logs while running open loop, and then lock it up" I'm doing this at the moment, the ecu allows a percentage of fuel to be added or subtracted from the whole map so now I have richened the whole map by 5% allowed learning (14.7) for 60% of the map but I'm still safe at WOT and full load by virtue of the 5% enrichment. Sending the ecu back to the manufacturer for the full learning modification is also an option. An analogue brain in a digital World |
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11-18-2012, 09:36 PM
Post: #13
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By coincidence, last night I read an interesting comment regarding the
Freedom ECU. It seems that when in self-learning mode, instead of the ECU waiting for the load/rpm combination to place the cross hairs near enough to the centre of a cell before making a correction, it takes a value at random, and interpolates proportionately between the four nearest cells. Adjusting cell by cell takes a lot longer, as the cross hairs have to linger near the centre of the cell for a few milliseconds, and this does not happen so often. Interpolating between the four nearest cells can always be done with no waiting time. I didn't explain that very well, but it ties back to your original post Cheers... jondee86 |
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