Solid rear brace?
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07-19-2007, 04:40 PM
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Solid rear brace?
Hey people, got another thing on my mind...
We all know that the 86 chassis isafter all those years almost like a chewing gum... a used chewing gum, so a brace is a must, especialy when much harder suspension setup is used. I know that the best way how to firm up the body is a roll cage, but unfourtunetly a cage is something strictly prohibited by our road law (fuck!). But why not to use solid steel pipes just between the rear shocks top mounts? So, what do wou think about this idea? Would it work? What design would you suggest? Thanks a lot for helping me out! 86ers.org AE86 x GXE10 |
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07-19-2007, 05:18 PM
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Why not use strut braces to start?
You could take a triangle bar in the rear and a regular one in the rear. This would be an easy start. Additionally there are floor braces available. And body braces, for example under the front fenders. Or if you can weld, jsut throw in some extra piping. If you wanna go all out you could also stitch weld the body. Might be a little too much though. Speed Industries Hurdnerwaeldlistr. 73 8808 Pfaeffikon Switzerland e-mail: [email protected] phone: +4155 420 15 69 page: http://www.speed-industries.ch MSN: [email protected] We have all the parts your Hachi needs |
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07-19-2007, 05:29 PM
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spit I have been abusing my ae86 since I have it and no problems with the chassis mate. As long as you don't see alot of track it won't harm the car.
Cars: "99 Lexus IS200 "86 AE86 Kouki Panda Levin GT-Apex (restore project) "84 AE86 Zenki Blue Levin (project racer) Motorcycles: "02 Yamaha R1 "02 Honda Hornet S "08 BMW R1200GS |
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07-19-2007, 07:02 PM
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I have those floor braces, rear shock braces and C-pillar braces in my Trueno. They do exactly what I expected, which is absolutely nothing. You can buy them off me if you want.
One member made an under car brace that looked like it might actually work *mr. Gud? You might want to take a look at that one. A wheel to steer the front of the car A pedal to steer the rear |
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07-19-2007, 08:53 PM
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Id love to spend a lot of money on all those nice aftermarket braces, but unfourtunetly I cant afford that. The only thing Im capable of paying is a pipe, welder and a hacksaw
Heres a pic of what design a boy I know uses right now (sorry, no real pic), Im really concidering asking him to make something like that for my 86 too. 86ers.org AE86 x GXE10 |
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07-20-2007, 07:02 AM
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NoHachi Wrote:I have those floor braces, rear shock braces and C-pillar braces in my Trueno. They do exactly what I expected, which is absolutely nothing. You can buy them off me if you want. You must be lucky enough to have a really well put together 86... I agree with you on the c-pillar brace, it seemed to do very little. The only thing I ever noticed was in my previous 86 it quieted all my sunroof rattles, and that could be simply because it changed the harmonics of the car. BUT I have to disagree on SOME strut/rear floor bar braces. I definately noticed large differences in how well/predictable the car handled with them, than without them. Especially when it came to feeling/knowing how the car would react. Much better driver input, less chassis noise/flex, better cornering/drifting. I've actually worked with a relatively new friend of mine who is going to start producing something similar to the UEO rear bar, but with improvements. Anyways, heres my post from another couple of forums. Quote:In the last couple months a friend of mine met up with a local guy who is interested in making braces & brackets, and maybe other cool stuff for S13's, maybe S14's and after talking to him the AE86. Andrew |
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07-20-2007, 07:16 AM
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Solid rear brace?
So are you selling these assassin?
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07-20-2007, 07:21 AM
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evfan42 Wrote:So are you selling these assassin? I'm not personnally no... I just 'designed' and tested them. They'll be for sale as soon as we finish getting the bracketry cut & from the lasercutter... maybe powder coated as well. Andrew |
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07-20-2007, 09:47 AM
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Looks good. How this brace improves handling - it's located at back of rear shocks and 4-links mounting points ?
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07-20-2007, 10:05 AM
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jamiemirror Wrote:Looks good. How this brace improves handling - it's located at back of rear shocks and 4-links mounting points ? I had to think about it for a minute, I just knew from having a UEO rear bar that it worked. But I felt I could and wanted to improve upon their design. You & I forget when thinking about the 86 normally, that the front and rear sub-frames do not connect. And the rear subframe rails run up past the shock towers and back to the rear bumper. There is quite a bit of flex in our cars, thats why so many run some serious stitch welding, as well as weld in bracing via plates, bars & cages. The placement of this rear bar ties the whole rear subframe together which in turns stiffens up the whole rear chassis including the 4-link & panhard areas. As well as the shock & spring seat areas. Tying together the whole of the rear suspension/chassis. (At least, I think. It's pretty late where I am right now and I've got to get up early for work) Andrew |
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