found som old movies of my CRX

[NoHachi]

Sorry to keep this discussion going. I kinda like it, not beating on the hachi though.

The integra is a great car in stock form, but its not that much faster then a mildly sorted CRX VTi on the track. Mux could ask Frank on the other forum he visits (8200rpm). He drives a ITR with toda cams. Still about 10 seconds slower then a track CRX on Zandvoort.

Regarding price...I do not agree that a honda is more expensive. A stock ITR will keep up with anything but a full prepped TRD AE86. Parts for the honda are plentifull and cheap, certainly cheaper then toyota OEM. I have seen multiple CRX vti's here that hit 12 second 1/4 miles with just a entry level turbo kit. Thats around 250whp( be it for a short duration) on the stock shortblock. B16 are certainly better at handling power then the stock 4A-GE. Both are great engines, but the B16 is just a generation younger and it shows. 4A-GE is more similar to the D16Z5 or ZC engine.

Not that all this matters very much. Its still 90% driver capability and 10% car. As long as you're having fun, all is well. I had lots of fun in my years with my little civic. Trailbraking into every corner, waiting for the rear to step out of line and help the car rotate towards the apex. A technique by the way, that a lot of the aspiring drifters here on the forums should really try and learn. Just mashing the accelerator doesn't always do the trick. (You know who you are ;-) )