How to fix a floating idle on a Toyota 4A-GE motor
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08-27-2013, 12:55 AM
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Full credit to the original poster for taking the time to describe how he
found and cured the floating idle problem on his car However, I would like to make the point, that there are some other things you can look at before you consider replacing or modifying the TPS. These are a couple of quick checks you can do to narrow down the likely cause of a floating idle problem. First get the engine up to operating temperature. From a cold start, any 4AGE bigport or smallport (with the factory intake and thermostatic idle-up valve) should first idle at around 2200 rpm, and gradually drop to around 900 rpm as the engine comes up to temperature. Once the engine is warmed up, do this... 1. FIRST CHECK With the engine running, unplug either the TPS or the MAP sensor. See if the idle stops floating. If it does, then your hot idle is too high. Check for a vacuum leak (hose off etc), throttle not closing completely (cable too tight, bypass screw wide open, throttle stop screw loose etc). If you can't find anything obvious, then do this... 2. SECOND CHECK Remove the intake ducting from the throttle body, and locate the idle air intake opening (about 5 o'clock just in front of the throttle plate). With the engine running, close the hole with your finger, and see if the idle stops floating. Note that this is only possible with a MAP sensored engine. With AFM engines you need to close the hole off temporarily with a small soft rubber plug, a couple of layers of duct tape, or similar. Put the ducting back on and start the engine. Blocking the hole on a fully warmed up engine with a working thermostatic idle-up valve, should only drop the engine speed by 100 rpm or thereabouts. If the idle drops by 1000 rpm, then the valve is not working i.e. it is staying open when it should be closed. If the valve stays open, you will have permanently high idle and it will start floating once the engine is up to temperature. Check that both hoses from the engine cooling system to the valve get hot with the engine running. If one stays cool. the water is not circulating. Remove the valve and clean it. Make sure there is a clear flow from inlet to outlet. Drop the whole valve into a pan full of boiling water and see if the valve moves about 8 mm. Check the hoses are not blocked. After this, your idle should go high on cold start and then drop to 900 rpm or so when the engine is fully warmed, and no floating idle But if neither of these checks solves the problem, then you will need to start investigating the TPS, engine timing, electrical idle-up valves and other possible causes. Cheers... jondee86 |
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How to fix a floating idle on a Toyota 4A-GE motor - Homem Bomba - 06-30-2013, 01:04 PM
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