Help me AEU86, you're my only hope
04-10-2021, 05:19 PM
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RE: Help me AEU86, you're my only hope
(04-10-2021 11:15 AM)totta Crolla Wrote:  Just checking. You are using a TVIS inlet manifold and not a smallport to RWD conversion?

Correct, everything is big port + tvis.

(04-10-2021 12:06 AM)jondee86 Wrote:  I can't speak for engines with EGR but for the UK spec (no O2 sensor)
engines I owned the items affecting idle air were these...

1. IDLE AIR BYPASS SCREW used to set the correct idle speed when the
engine was up to temp.
2. AUXILIARY AIR VALVE heated by coolant and wide open when engine cold.
Raises idle to approx 2200rpm and then tapers down to 850-900rpm
as the engine comes up to temp and valve fully closes. If cold start idle
does not act like this the AAV water circuit is likely blocked with crud.
3. IDLE-UP SOLENOID controlled (ON/OFF) by the Idle-Up computer to
compensate for extra electrical load. I believe (as stated) that this valve
is also activated by the ECU on cold start.
4. THROTTLE PLATE SETTING which controls the amount of air that leaks
past the closed plate. This is set by adjusting the throttle stop using feeler
gauges and monitoring the action of the IDL switch in the TPS.
5. VACUUM LEAKS that allow air to enter any part of the intake after the
throttle plate will raise the idle speed.

While I am sure that you are aware of these items it does not hurt to
check them off your list one at a time. Many idle speed issues are caused
by partial blockages in the AAV itself or the small water tubes and hoses.
If the AAV does not get hot enough it will not close fully and you end up
with a permanently high idle. Same effect as a vacuum leak.

Cheers... jondee86

Yeah, I am aware, doesn't hurt to go over them again though. Gotta admit, sometimes when I write these posts its getting a bit late in the night so sometimes I don't write as clearly as perhaps I should.

In that last video we spoke about, the Idle Air Bypass Screw is completely closed, blocking the intake to the Auxiliary Air Valve with a finger has no effect or rpm when the motor is hot, meaning the valve is completely closed. RPM increases (and air / fuel reading drops to 0) when turning on lamps or heater fan, meaning the idle up Solenoid is working. This also happens when removing the hose from the throttle body itself, meaning the valve itself is not leaking. The Throttle plate has been adjusted so that it is just above the 'gripping' point (not sure how to describe this proceedure very well), and therefore is as closed as possible. Putting the hand over the intake to block air flow is designed to show there are not loeaks after the throttle plate.

I swapped over the throttle bodys again today, with the procedure I described yesterday. Can't go for a drive yet as the tyres are all quite flat! I'll try to sort that tomorrow and am charging up the apeman so I will hopefully have something tomorrow.
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