Brakes

[ZaX]

I have mintex racing brake pads, 1144 compound and mintex racing oil (no DOT aproval).
From the change to mintex i have never-ever had brakes fading on my ae86.
I run stock discs (with machined surface).

Most people agree that if you upgrade your brake pads and lightnen you ae86, there is no need for upgrading to big brakes systems.
Beside that, if you use too big brakes you can actualy have less braking power then before!!! So you would need a brake balancing valve to readjust the breaking balance.
More about this you can read at great stoptech site.
http://www.stoptech.com/technical/
They sell the big brakes kit.

And remember, it's not the brakes that stop the car. It's the tires.

[rikard]

ZaX Wrote:I have mintex racing brake pads, 1144 compound and mintex racing oil (no DOT aproval).
From the change to mintex i have never-ever had brakes fading on my ae86.
I run stock discs (with machined surface).

Most people agree that if you upgrade your brake pads and lightnen you ae86, there is no need for upgrading to big brakes systems.
Beside that, if you use too big brakes you can actualy have less braking power then before!!! So you would need a brake balancing valve to readjust the breaking balance.
More about this you can read at great stoptech site.
http://www.stoptech.com/technical/
They sell the big brakes kit.

And remember, it's not the brakes that stop the car. It's the tires.

I have a very similar setup to yours and I am very happy with it!
I did 30 min of very hard driving at SPA with this set up and never got any fade!
Only thing I want to change in the future is the discs and lighten the car more
I remember when I did two races with slicks on my Type R, the stopping power was amazing even tough I was running the same brake set up as I would use with my street tires!

[NoHachi]

Everyone go and read the stoptech site. It has some excellent articles that you shouls have read before tampering with your brakes.

[ZaX]

NoHachi Wrote:Everyone go and read the stoptech site. It has some excellent articles that you shouls have read before tampering with your brakes.

Glad you liked it.

[rikard]

NoHachi Wrote:Everyone go and read the stoptech site. It has some excellent articles that you shouls have read before tampering with your brakes.

The stoptech site is very good, read it a few years ago regarding the "warped" brake disc bit
I like what they have to say about SS braided brake lines, don't you NoHachi?

[NoHachi]

You are just gonna keep kicking that horse aren't you. :wink:
I just saw that they had some of the articles from Caroll Smith on there. i had the pleasure of hearing some of this stuff live from him during the FSAE event. His articles are backed up by years of engineering experience (engineer in most if not all forms of racing, one of the original designers of the shelby cobra). the article on brake lines are from some guy who owns a shop...ok.

The remarks I made about SS brake lines are just me repeating what I heard from the people here at Goodridge. They make these lines so i assume they know what they talk about. I have not done any pressure testing etc Have driven some vehicles that had the conversion done, but other than the usual slightly firmer pedal due to fresh liquid I didn't notice anything. your results may vary...

If you read carefully then you'll see that the original article mentions SOLID rubber lines. Go and cut up your std. lines and have a look.

[Ivan141]

I have seen the cross section of stock brakelines...no steel braiding, just tough wire braiding.

[NoHachi]

Now go to Goodridge and look at their lines

[robokill]

Where going a little bit off topic.

We are still looking and helping Jeroen for a good set of brakes not to say what we think of brake sets and what people think about it.

So

Does anyone have a good suggestion for Jeroen's brakes????

[NoHachi]

Dont screw around with brakes from other makes. In almost every case you have to fab a custom bracket . When you are doing that work, you might aswell buy proper callipers.

Look for a lightweight set of callipers from the aftermarket. Wilwood is real cheap, but doesn't have any dustseals. Ok for a fun/weekend car, but could give trouble on a daily driver.

When you have the calliper on start looking for a brake disc that fits. There are tons of cars out there with a 4x100 PCD so there is disc to veryones liking out there. You could probably even work with spacers to line things up, but thats not advisable.