Call me stupid...

[86drift]

This sounds dumb, I know. But what is the difference between a kouki ae86 and a zenki ae86?

[itouge]

early model 84-85 (zenki) and late model 86-87 (kouki). the new kouki have minor improvements... i guess im not really sure what they are

[banpei]

Most differences are visual, both interior and exterior were improved. And the rear axle and differential was slightly improved.
But we have a nice FAQ about it (which is not very complete):
http://www.aeu86.org/index/General-trivi...post=58117
or the discussion topic about it:
http://www.aeu86.org/viewtopic/ae86-mode...ouki-/t/63

[jondee86]

Asking questions is how you learn dude Nothing stupid about that !!

Cheers... jondee86

[banpei]

Totally agree with that!

[86drift]

Ok time to be sappy. This has to be one of the best forums I've ever been on. I swear, every other one you have to be REALLY careful and you still end up getting in a flame war about some stupid thing. On this forum, everyone is really intelligent and always willing to help and answer any questions they can.


aeu86.org FTW

[banpei]

Thanks!
FTW = For the win?

[Garth]

Totally agree, nice community here.

Didn't the later version have a better block or head in the engine?

Early model had smaller halfshafts and a 3.9 cwp or something as to the later on a 4.1 I believe.

[evfan42]

banpei Wrote:Thanks!
FTW = For the win?

yes banpei for the win.

[jondee86]

AE85/86 cars were produced in several trim and performance variants
on the Japanese domestic market. Then, to meet the requirements of
export markets, they were "customised" in countless ways. These
differences have been the source of endless discussion, argument and
debate in forums such this

However (IMHO) the only difference that really matters to an enthusiast
such as yourself, is that there were two versions of the Hachi. One was a
"performance" version with a factory 1600 EFI twincam, and the other
was a "shopping basket" version with a 1500 carbed single cam engine.

The performance version got all the good stuff; such as 4-wheel disc
brakes, 4A-GE, 5-speed manual, and often, a limited slip differential. This
is the car that was raced and rallied around the world

The shopping basket version got one of Toyotas basic 1500 single cam
engines with manual or auto box, drum brakes on the back axle, and a
standard differential. This is the car your mother would drive

All other differences between the versions are primarily cosmetic. Many
people upgrade the 1500 to 1600 specifications by exchanging parts, so
there are now a lot of "hybrid" Hachi's on the road.

Loving old cars, learning and having fun.... that's the important thing

Cheers... jondee86