Cheers from Germany

[Bean]

It's 30 years - see here https://www.tuev-verband.de/mobilitaet/s...%20wurden.

We have a similar thing in Switzerland, my 240Z has it but I wouldn't be able to get it for my AE86 unless I revert quite a few mods. Getting mods to pass here is extremely difficult unless the parts are just as old and you need proper paperwork that allowed them back in the days. That later part is almost impossible unless you have a very common car (VW beatle comes to mind)

[ps13michi]

(01-28-2022 08:28 PM)Gtsi-R Wrote:  Isn’t the H-Kennzeichen For 40 years and older? What Year is yours from? at least a zenki

Yes its for cars older than 30 years.

Tuning is ok as long as its from that time - so like all the things in my car I have pictures from old tuning magazines and papers to say that this is tuning from the 80s. So regulation is 86 +10 years for tuning parts. Parts who are newer have to be removed. For that I can clip the AM afr and put it into the glove box and so on

[Gtsi-R]

(02-02-2022 11:17 AM)ps13michi Wrote:  

(01-28-2022 08:28 PM)Gtsi-R Wrote:  Isn’t the H-Kennzeichen For 40 years and older? What Year is yours from? at least a zenki

Yes its for cars older than 30 years.

Tuning is ok as long as its from that time - so like all the things in my car I have pictures from old tuning magazines and papers to say that this is tuning from the 80s. So regulation is 86 +10 years for tuning parts. Parts who are newer have to be removed. For that I can clip the AM afr and put it into the glove box and so on

ok thanks! but you then still need to prove yourself that the parts used where available 86+ 10 years. how does that go with bodyparts? for instance, bodykits like run-free etc. are pretty long available, even FRP one's

interesting topic though.. might changes the plan a bit how I restore/ build-up mine.

[ps13michi]

Yes at first you need a Tüv people that are willing to do this with you otherwise you are lost.

So I have some Option Magazines and other old Magazines from 90, 92 and so on with parts and pictures in it. So that is my proof that these parts existed back than.

But also its hard bc the german tüv loves papers (not the money) papers like Abe or papers wich proof that these things are good enough for the streets so that is the real pain in the ass.

And for different parts its like different papers... gfk / frp has to fulfill certain tests that this will not brake with a sharp edge and so on.

Its a lot of work and also lots of try and error and yip need good people who are thinking and not only doing their job from 9-5...

[Bean]

Swiss version of TÜV loves papers too. Biggest downside here is every single paper here is a lot of $$$. I once got a quote for my intended modifications for my Corolla and it was a minimum of 20k (minimum as when you fail a test you have to pay again). Needless to say I decided against most of this modifications.