Suspensions and stearing setups

[Abe]

dxaqta Wrote:for grip driving i run:
Camber: -3.0
Castor: +4 degrees
Toe: Zero (as i dont really understand toe)

I personally think that 7 and 5kg spring are to stiff.

Yes, I think the same... I will chage it to 6/5 F/R or 5/4 F/R...

what feel you have whit this setup?

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Zax I have a problem with camber... I can´t reduce it, because I use it.... My tyres looks like slicks in the exterior I think I need it or broke my tyres in two weeks

Few time ago I had -1,5º camber and when i change it to 2º I feel less understeer and more grip, Is possible? but i dont want put more camber because I lose brake power in front tires.

I know you have a lot of experience.... I think I can´t put less camber... what front setup do you think is good with this camber?

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Mux, yes of course, Toyo CF have the flank (i dont know if is the correct word) very soft and this don´t help to stop the understeer


Regards and thanks!

[DJexor]

how wide are you rims?

i had 205 on a 7" rim, but it was bad!!
now i have 195 on these rims and its so much better. No wierd worn out tires anymore...

[Abe]

DJexor Wrote:how wide are you rims?

195/60/14" in 14x7 konig rewind 0 offset...


Regards

[matt mead]

Abe Wrote:

dxaqta Wrote:for grip driving i run:
Camber: -3.0
Castor: +4 degrees
Toe: Zero (as i dont really understand toe)

I personally think that 7 and 5kg spring are to stiff.

Yes, I think the same... I will chage it to 6/5 F/R or 5/4 F/R...

what feel you have whit this setup?

i think 6/4 will work better as i belive 5kg rears will cause oversteer, this could be dialled out with damper adjustments, but i think a 4kg will work better...

however, i think you need to look at the other areas that i stated above, why spend money on new springs when u can play with ur dampers for free!!! or get a wheel alignment for 20$!!! even if it doenst work u will lern something about ur suspension

and what i have stated above is mostly from personaly expereince and from speaking to knowlegable indivduals

here is a pic to prove it
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[apardal]

abe, konig's 14" offset is -9.

I don't know your kind of driving ability but when I fitted my limited slip differential I noticed a large increase of understeer. I understood that I needed to change my driving style to reduce this handycap.

Best regards

[Abe]

apardal Wrote:abe, konig's 14" offset is -9.

I don't know your kind of driving ability but when I fitted my limited slip differential I noticed a large increase of understeer. I understood that I needed to change my driving style to reduce this handycap.

Best regards

Yes of course, when I put the lsd I Know i will have more understeer, and I know I need change my drive style... but the understeer is more hevy than other cars whit my lsd, and If this understeer can be change... why not change it? if I prefer a car only a bit underster or neutral...

My driving ability... I don´t know but not is the worse

Regards

[matt mead]

lsd causes fuck all understeer.. u need to get that out of ur head.. there is something wrong with ur suspensino setup

have u tryed any of our sugestions????

[Abe]

dxaqta Wrote:here is a pic to prove it

Yes I see

I don´t have problems change the spring rates, because when you buy coilovers K-sport, they have a suport of springs a lot cheaper... I can buy 2 springs for around 25 €

But this evening i can go to try whit a new set up of alignment.... and if it work good the problem are finish... if don´t work we know that I need search the problem in other part of the car....

at this moment, I think put dxaqta's alignment:

for grip driving i run:
Camber: -3.0
Castor: +4 degrees
Toe: 0

Other setup or suggestion?


Regards

[matt mead]

u wont get +4 degree with stock castor rods and with 195/50/15 tyres it rubs on your front bar i had to cut mine

[Ivan141]

BTW..strong LSD's will push the car into understeer..it's a matter of driving the wrong way. It will lock up..driving bioth rear wheels (which causes the car to try and go straight). If your front tyres are not up to the task, they will be overpowered and pushed into understeer.