Coil springs...

[mrgud]

Thanx man...

Those are FRONT springs...
I need BACK springs too...


This is a good photo...

If I don't find any I will brake my car in peices to measure this

[Apolan]

mrgud, valjda ima neko od vaših tamo serijske amortizere u kutiji, kad jih skoro nitko više nema na autu?

[Fallguz]

miro,
i use ~3 kg front and rear TRD springs.. they are a bit on the soft side but i run my dampers on a soft setting as well..

6 / 4 kg would probably be the limit to still drive fast over bumps on slijme and comfortably during the day.

http://trdparts.jp/english/parts_spring.html

i got the springs

48131-AE811
and
48231-AE811

but ill check if other spring rates are available..

[Apolan]

they are also a bit on the expensive side. cca 190 eur for the complete set and than there's shipping, customs, taxes..

Fallquz, have you by any chance measured the exact drop vs the oem springs?

It looks like i'll have to go with the apexes. What do you think people, will they match well with TOKICO HP blues shocks? I hate haveing so litlle choices.

[jondee86]

Finding springs that work with stock suspension components is a
bit of a problem. Here are two different "lowering" springs for the
front of the AE86. The black one in the centre is the standard GT
spring @ 1.8 kg/mm.

The red one on the left is a "cosmetic" lowering spring, very soft and
comfortable, and sits about 60 down from stock. Not really suitable
for fast driving, and you are almost sitting on the bumpstops.

The blue one on the right is an Espelir GT Active Down "sports"
lowering spring @ 3.0 kg/mm. These sit about 40 down from stock
and provide a firm, but not harsh, ride over all surfaces. For
comparison, TRD used 2.8 kg/mm for their "Low Street Springs".



I am running the Espelirs with AGX shox, and have shortened the
strut housings by 40 above the spring perch. This gives me a bit more
bump travel, while still retaining the appearance of stock suspension.

This setup is not even close to a "drift" suspension, but it works fine
for driving over our typical rough and uneven suburban streets

Cheers... jondee86

[mrgud]

Ok... am I lobotomized or what??

obviously I am searching on the wrong places...

No springs for AE86
https://www.momentumgt.com/teinstechspri...p-823.html

Got a few sets but
http://www.extremeturbosystems.com/Toyot..._info.html
No info on the spring rate

bit pricey
http://www.raceinspired.com/ps-2171-36-e...-1987.aspx
Yet- no spring rate

bit cheeper- still no spring rate
http://www.advancespeedshop.com/eibach-p...-1335.html

still no spring rate...
http://www.nyxracing.com/eibach-prokit-s...34871.html

Has some explanation about the spring rate increase 20-30%
http://www.hopupracing.com/esasdsptocog.html
but never heard of them....


same with half a dozen links...

Let's run the basic again...

Apolan, we are searching for 6 kg/mm front and 4 kg/mm back
That is a good drift suspension jet not too stif for the road...

If I don't find them before next paycheck- I am making my own at the blacksmith in Zagreb....



please help me, where to search?

[mrgud]

erm... I think I found them... !!

http://www.viniati.com/8487-toyota-corol...17977.html




- Color: Orange
- Lower rate: 1.85" Front+Rear
- Springs rate: 250F & 225R

Ok... 225lb/in is aprox 4 kg/mm That could be it!!!


Any ideas and experiences?

[Apolan]

mrgud i've made a thread before - research and findings:

Apolan Wrote:EDIT: Lets make this the place to have a proper discussion about springs for our beloved cars. All about prings for non-adjustable setups.

So i have put together a little list, for all the options that i'm aware of (springrates, lowering, prices, availability):

Tanabe GF210 (F:-25mm _ 2.5kg/mm R:-18mm _ 2.7 kg/mm) (cheapest in USA cca 150$; in EU 200 eur+)
APEX (F:-30mm _ +30% R:-30mm _ +30%) (availible in EU cca 150 eur)
EIBACH Sportkit (F:-25mm _ +30% R:-33mm _ +30%) (availible in EU, price in USA cca 180-200 $)
INTRAX (F:-40mm _ +30% R:-40mm _ +30%) (availible in EU, price in USA cca 180-200$
MEGAN Racing (f:-46mm _ +30% r:-43mm _+30%) (availible in USA 120$)
ESPELIR Active Super Down (F:-40mm _ 3.0 kg/mm R:-30mm _ 2.8 kg/mm) (availible in japan 80 eur and on)
RS*R Ti2000 (F: -20-25mm _ 2.63 kg/mm R: -10-15mm _ 2.33 kg/mm) (availible in japan cca. 60 eur and on)

All prices are informative (from online shops and stuff). There are more options (Cobra, TRD ..), so if you know any other with specifications please add..

Your Experiences
Please share your experiences with any springs that you might have had . (but only for non-adjustable setups)

Pictures
Please paste pictures of your car on various springs (all for non adjustable). Measurements of rideheight are welcome naturally.

If this turns out to be a good discussion, maybe we can make a tech faq about springs for the newcomers.

PS: Does anybody know the springrates of the stock/oem units?

from: http://www.aeu86.org/viewtopic/springs-f...ht=springs

Theese megan racing springs sit too low for normal/long stroke. 5 cm drop is too much. I think i like espelir best at the moment. Eibachs lower more at the rear than in the front, i hate that.

From all the above i like espelir the best, and i will buy them probably - will they work good on normalstroke Tokico HP blues?. Mrgud, options are limited, you will just have to go shortstroke and coilover for drifting. srry

[Apolan]

btw where to find espelir springs? jondee?

[jondee86]

I had to order the Espelir springs from Japan. I may have named them
incorrectly above (there is some confusion about the part number) ...
because here is a listing from Mackin Industries in the USA..
http://www.mackinindustries.com....

ESA086 ACTIVE SUPER DOWN (blue)
85-87 Toyota Corolla GT-S (AE86) ASD 40mm 40mm 3.0-2.8 $230.00

ESG086 ACTIVE GT (red)
85-87 Toyota Corolla GT-S (AE86) GT 40mm 40mm 4.0-3.1 $340.00

I tried to buy the Active GT but you can't get them in Japan, as I think
they are a USA market only item. And no-one in the USA seemed to be
selling them last year (or even know anything about them), so I settled
for the ASD springs. Maybe they are in the stores now ?

I think the Active GT would be ideal for road use with some autocross
or grip track time. Will probably look for them again when I have
finished some other improvements

Cheers... jondee86