Camber, caster, toe, anti-roll bars, tires, springs......
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10-29-2004, 03:47 PM
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With toe-in (left) a deflection of the suspension does not cause the wheels to initiate a turn as with toe-out (right). Caster (TOP LEFT) Positive camber: The bottoms of the wheels are closer together than the tops. (TOP RIGHT) Negative camber: The tops of the wheels are closer together than the bottoms. (CENTER) When a suspension does not gain camber during deflection, this causes a severe positive camber condition when the car leans during cornering. This can cause funky handling. (BOTTOM) Fight the funk: A suspension that gains camber during deflection will compensate for body roll. Tuning dynamic camber angles is one of the black arts of suspension tuning. Front spring rate increase: More under steer; increase in proportional weight transfer to the front when rear wheel rate is not increased; reduces front traction when rear rate is not changed. Usable adjustment: 150-600 lbs/in Symptoms of too much adjustment: terminal under steer; front of car hops in corners; excessive wheel spin on inside front tire on FF cars. Front spring rate decrease: Less under steer; decreases proportional weight transfer to the front when rear wheel rate is not increased; increases front traction when rear rate is not changed. Usable adjustment: 150-600 lbs/in Symptoms of to much adjustment: Too much over steer; over steer then under steer if spring is so soft that the car bottoms out on lean, car bottoms out excessively with a jolting ride. Rear spring rate increase: More over steer; increase in proportional weight transfer to the rear when front wheel rate is not increased; increases rear traction when front rate is not changed. Usable range: 100-600 lbs/in Symptoms of too much adjustment: too much over steer; sidestep hop in corners; twitchy; pretty scary. Rear spring rate decrease: Less over steer: decreases proportional weight transfer to the rear when front wheel rate is not changed; increases rear traction when front rate is not changed Usable range: 100-600 lbs/in Symptoms of too much adjustment: car under steers; if way to soft car under steers then over steers as car bottoms out on lean; car bottoms out excessively with a jolting ride. Front anti-roll bar stiffer: more under steer Usable range: none to 1.25 inches in diameter Symptoms of to much adjustment: terminal under steer; lifts inside front tire off the ground witch can cause massive wheel spin on FF cars; also not good for most effective tire usage as inside tire is now doing nothing. Front anti-roll bar softer: less under steer Usable range: none to 1.25 inches in diameter Symptoms of to much adjustment: overstate scary; more like fun Rear anti-roll bar stiffer: more over steer Usable range: none to 1 inch in diameter Symptoms of too much adjustment: Big-time over steer. Can cause inside rear tire to lift off the ground. Rear anti-roll bar softer: less over steer Usable range: none to 1 inch in diameter Symptoms of to much adjustment: under steer; slow and boring Front tire pressure higher: less under steer by reducing slip angels on most tires Usable adjustment: up to 55psi hot Symptoms of too much adjustment: no traction- tire crowned so more under steer; adds wheel spin in FF cars; jarring ride; center of tire wears out Front tire pressure lower: more under steer by increasing slip angles on most tires Usable adjustment: not less then 20psi Symptoms of too much adjustment: edges of tire wear quickly because tire is folding over; feels mushy; tires chunk because low pressure means heat build up. Rear tire pressure higher: less over steer by reducing slip angles on most tires Usable range: up to 45psi hot Symptoms of too much adjustment: no traction—tire is crowned so more over steer; bad wheel spin on FR cars; jarring ride; center of tire wears out. Rear tire pressure lower: more over steer by incresing slip angles on most tires. Usable range: not less then 20psi Symptoms of too much adjustment: edges of tire wear quickly because tire is folding over; feels mushy; tires chunk because low pressure means heat build up More negative camber front: less under steer because of better lateral traction as tread is flatter on the ground under side load. Usable range: up to 3.5 degrees negative Symptoms of too much adjustment: poor braking; car is road crown sensitive; twitchy; front tires wear on inside edge More negative camber rear: less over steer because of better lateral traction as tread is flatter on the ground under side load. More rear grip Usable range: up to 2.5 degrees negative Symptoms of too much adjustment: more over steer; car feels twitchy in back; tires wear out on inside edge; less breakaway warning when limit is exceeded. Ride height to low (typical beginner mistake): car is twitchy with unpredictable dynamics. Bump steer make you life miserable. Usable range: usually 1.5-2.0 inches lower then stock unless car has been modified to go lower. Symptoms of too much adjustment: everything that could possibly go wrong: sudden over/under steer; twitchy due to bump steer; very harsh ride; premature tire wear. Toe in – front: car is stable going straight. Turn in is average Usable range: 0-1/8th inch Symptoms of too much adjustment: car has slow twitchiness under braking; feels odd; kills outside edge of tires Toe out – front: Car turns in well; works pretty well on FF car as they tend to toe-in under load. Usable range: 0-1/4 inch Symptoms of too much adjustment: Car is really twitchy under braking; car wanders on straight road; kills inside edge of tire Toe in – rear: car is less likely to over steer when the throttle is lifted Usable range: 0-1/8th inch Symptoms of too much adjustment: weird, slow, rocking movement in back; feels slow but still unstable; wears outside edge of tires. Toe out – rear: Helps car rotate useful in low speed and slalom courses; very common on FF pro rally cars. Usable range: 0-1/8th inch Symptoms of too much adjustment: not to good for street driving; causes lift throttle over steer; makes violent side to side rocking motions in the rear; tie wears on inside more. Positive front caster: helps stability; suspension will get more negative camber when turning; reducing positive caster reduces steering effort. (Negative caster is not usable) Usable range: 4-9 degrees positive Symptoms of too much adjustment: can increase under steer especially in cars with wide low-profile tires. Can increase steering effort. Single adjustable shock stiffer: Better turn in; better transient response; causes slower onset of over/under steer by slowing weight transfer depending on what end of the car is adjusted. Symptoms of too much adjustment: suspension becomes unresponsive; ride gets harsh; car skips over bumps, loosing traction; Causes a big delay in weight transfer resulting in strange handling like under steer then late corner stage over steer. Single adjustable shock softer: slower transient response; quicker onset of over/under steer Symptoms of too much adjustment: car oscillates due to under dampened spring motion, like a boat. Car gets twitchy in turns. Feels unstable. Drifting - best fun you can have in your car with your pants on! |
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Camber, caster, toe, anti-roll bars, tires, springs...... - ZaX - 10-29-2004, 03:46 PM
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