OST-031: a delicate dance

[oldeskewltoy]

A delicate dance...

titled as such because OST-031 and OST-030 will be built almost simultaneously.





As you can see... OST-030 in the background, with 2 heads in front



Clients head on the left.... anyone see an issue??


How about if we isolate the two sets of chambers.... clients head on top



It's replacement on the bottom


See anything now??


Closer??




I've dismantled the replacement and I've sent it on to get cleaned and pressure checked....

So with it @ the shop to get cleaned, the delicate dance proceeds as I move back to OST-030





More to come...

[oldeskewltoy]

oldeskewltoy Wrote:So with it @ the shop to get cleaned, the delicate dance proceeds



More to come...

So now that OST-030 is @ the shop getting its valve job, work on OST-031 begins.....

A slightly different angle view on the intake bowls, and chambers... a bit more vertical



This view allows us to see the back of the bowl where it meets the valve seat.



Now when I titled this thread "A delicate dance" originally it was based on working OST-030 side by side with OST-031... BUT OST-031's title has new meaning....




Note how close the gasket edge is to the port outlet roofs... best noticed on end ports, 4 is done, #1 on right is yet to be touched

On #4 (the one done) there was less that .010" to the edge of the gasket. Typically I have over 1/2mm (.0197") or even more!



more to come.......

[oldeskewltoy]

from another forum Wrote:Don't tell anyone, all gasket manufacturers are the only ones to really know the real speed secrets of every head.

I hear what I BELIEVE you are saying... I only use OEM gaskets when I work the head, because OEM tends to have more consistancy........



I've gotten a bit further since my last post.....




and in more detail.... 2 slightly different views...


1st internally exhaust port #2's transition





and from a slightly different POV...... #3's transition





More to come......

[oldeskewltoy]

from another forum Wrote:Wouldn't these "bad" heads have better pressure recovery zones?

not disputed.... BUT.. the time required/amount of work involved makes it significantly less desirable. Also to consider is the irregularity of the "flaw"s occurance.



chamber #1 has no "flaw"... chamber #4 has only a minor "flaw". Do I weld up chambers 1 and 4 and shape them to equal the finished chambers of 2 and 3? My typical finished head goes out the door for under $1500, some under $1000

so... to again answer your question... Yes... these heads would have better pressure recovery, but the work involved makes it less affordable/attractive.


"Pressure Recovery" - is a concept researched by Darren Morgan (Induction Research and Development expert). In essence.....

Quote:'pressure recovery' refers to efficient slowing of fluid velocity and transforming the kinetic energy into pressure. In the runner, and especially through a partially-open valve, the velocity is high and the pressure low. In the cylinder, the opposite is true. A gradual transition, as in the exit contour of a carb venturi or through a tapered-hole carb spacer, accomplishes this. Blasting a high-speed air jet into a a big, still cylinder does not.

to simplify this even more(to better visualize)... think of the valve opening inside a funnel.....

[oldeskewltoy]

With OST-030 heading back to its owner, and OST-032 at the shop getting cleaned and pressure checked, there is a window of time to check chamber volumes on OST-031, and then re-assemble.






This time I got 35.6 on #1, and #2, #3 was 35.3, and #4 was 35.5

Soooo... I did a little adjustment on chambers 3 and 4 and got both to 35.6

Chamber and bowls... before.... and after



Assembly to follow......

[oldeskewltoy]

from another forum Wrote:If you had to guess how many hours would you say went into this one?

port work - about 30 hours : chamber deshrouding, and equalizing chamber volumes - 6 hours : waiting for the machine shop to do their thing - 2 weeks


Found another suspect retainer... swapped it out




The head is now ready for its cams.....





More to come.......

[oldeskewltoy]

The dance continues.... although now I'm dancing with the valve clearances...




with 13 valves headed back to the machine shop to get tipped...

[harkes]

Hi Dan

When you set the cam/shim clearance do you then use the the same shim/valve followers and machine the valve?

I have a big valve job coming up and changing to shimless valve followers at the same time. I am thinking of buying 16pcs of the biggest followers and then trim the lengths of the valve stem.

[oldeskewltoy]

(05-20-2015 10:05 AM)harkes Wrote:  Hi Dan

When you set the cam/shim clearance do you then use the the same shim/valve followers and machine the valve?

I try to keep a common shim size, so I'll "tip the valves" (grind the valves tip) so the shims are the more center of the road/common shims.

from another forum Wrote:what happened to the other three?

if you crank your neck 85 degrees to the left....

you can see intake valve #2 is currently @ .010" (spec is .008"), with a .1122" shim. This means replacing with an .1142" shim should get me to spec. The other 2 intake valve, 5 and 6, are currently @ .008" with the .1122 shim. The other 13 were significantly tighter, and if I had a full stock of thin shims (.0984" through .1024") I might just shim it... but I TRY to think of the client/next guy... and if I keep common shim types in there, when this client goes for camshafts in his future... he should still be within standard - common size shim distances.

(05-20-2015 10:05 AM)harkes Wrote:  I have a big valve job coming up and changing to shimless valve followers at the same time. I am thinking of buying 16pcs of the biggest followers and then trim the lengths of the valve stem.

that is one way.... but I'd begin with a sizing set first to determine how much you'll need to machine from the tips. For example... sizing sets says you'll need 5.32mm, you can machine the bucket to 5.35mm and double check before final machining.

It would suck if you had to guess and over guessed.....