The A6 Celica/Carina topic

[roman]

The Doctor Wrote:I know that Celica 2.0XT/1.6GTS and 2.0GT (and Supra MA61) legs are fysically the same, but with bigger brakes again (14" is the smallest wheels which fit them) and a different bolt spacing on the bottom.

Not quite.

Narrow body cars (celica, carina, corona) with non vented brakes at the front have smaller wheel bearings than the others. Fits 13" wheels.

Narrow body cars with vented brakes have reinforced struts, bigger wheel bearings, stronger hubs and require 14" wheels.

Wide body cars (Celica-supra, Soarer, Cressida etc) have more kingpin inclination angle in the Strut - meaning if you put them in a narrow body car you gain positive camber. So they are not identical, but still fine to use if you can add the camber back in with adjustable strut tops.

If wanting to compare parts between cars, cant reccomend enough to use toyodiy.com and cross searching parts.

[The Doctor]

I stand corrected

I didn't knew about the KPI differences. I've had AA63 and RA61 legs next to eachother, but never next to a MA61/GX71 ones. But i had a set of them as well, and they looked the same and interchangeble to me!

[roman]

They're certainly interchangable - Just not identical
A lot of people pinch the AA63 etc struts for their widebody cars as a cheap and easy way to gain negative camber without changing anything else.

[Rascal21]

Thanks a lot for good answers!

I`d prefer steering rack because with modifications I can get more steering lock than I could with the A40 worm & roller (Which only has potential for shorter tie-rods and camber plates), vented brakes is a must now that I am converting to 16v 4A-GE.
We are talking about additional 50hp on a car whose original brakes and original engine is already walking a fine line between at the limit and stupidity.

I know that the Austrian TA40`s have bigger brakes (On which 14" wheels is a must) but I am unsure if the Austrian brake discs are vented (A must for me), and if the spindles are compatible with steering rack (A must for me), I absolutely cannot afford custom solution i.e machining of vented discs to suit smaller hub every time I`m changing discs.

Making Caliper brackets is not too hard with the equipment I have available at school (And indeed we are encouraged to make custom parts for our cars/motorbikes there, it`s good learning.)

The only parts that came through as identical @toyodiy was wheel-bearings across the whole range of AE86, TA40 and TA60 front axles, the hubs however are all different on AE86, TA40 and TA60.

I do have it on good authority that just about any AE86 coilover solutions will work on TA40 strut casings, but whether or not AE86 discs fits the TA40 spindles and TA60 steering rack works with the TA40 spindle design is a different story

[roman]

The entire struts, spindles, wheel bearings, hubs, discs, calipers are totally different between vented and non vented disc front struts.

It's likely that the AE86 wheel bearing is the same size as the smaller TA40 one.

I've had two different brake setups on my vented struts -

SW20 front calipers, using a Citreon Xantia turbo disc and a Townace front hub.

And also Nissan 4 pot calipers, Citreon Xantia turbo disc, and standard front hubs with a small spacer.

If you have the vented struts you can swap hubs between Cressida (x60 x71), soarer (z10), celica supra (ma61), townace van, celica/carina/corona with vented discs, and a few other things depending on what's available locally where you are.

[willy]

Nice aa63.
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[banpei]

Thanks for sharing!

[beastedaw11]

i want a 4 door, with a 4ag, is it only the 85?

[banpei]

beastedaw11 Wrote:i want a 4 door, with a 4ag, is it only the 85?

What do you mean with only the 85?
If you mean the year it was built, then no: the AA63 was sold starting from may 1983 onwards.

[conal g]

My TA40.

40,000 genuine miles.

Needs some love. selling if anyone is interested! €900

May also part!